Proposal #27: CISV business friends
I propose that we expand CISV Friends to include an optional career resource element.
Rationale
One of CISV's strongest successes is that it is a network of generally like-minded people around the world. It would be very easy to add a function on CISV Friends that would give people the option to share in their profile what their career is and whether people can
contact them about it. In this way we share not only our CISV worlds, but our work worlds as well. This could be a resource for people exploring job opportunities in other countries, but might also be used in other contexts.
Many are hesitant to use the community of CISV for professional or "for profit" purposes because they don't want to bother anyone, seem too pushy, or like they are "abusing" the CISV system. However, Universities and many other organizations have systems to put people in touch with alumni who are willing to be contacted in this context, why not CISV alumni? We already contact them (in many countries at least) in order to ask them for money to help fund a village, is this not at least, if not more, acceptable?
Respectfully submitted, Sarah (USA)
{CISV Friends is a CISV alumni website, that helps CISVers stay in contact with people they met in camps a long time ago. The website has been running since 2003 and more than 10.000 people have registred so far. Assuming that something like 70.000 people have taken part in CISV activities, 10-15% of all CISVers are registred by now.}
9 Comments:
hopefully you'll get some of this by summer 2007. by than we hope to have a personal contact list... which still might not include work details about people, but will be a sort of personal address book. there you will have not only the people which you did activities together with, but also any people registered in friends you want to...
personally I think you can contact cisv people whenever you want to share job experiences and search for opprtunities abroad. But, this is not one of CISV's aims. I do not agree on putting in a CISV website or CISV official doc anything which is profit-oriented. CISV shouldn't take care of individual careers. DIY=do it yourself!
Ciao
Luca
I really like the idea!
But I think it is important to think about why we have CISV Friends website. And I don't think it should be so we can find people from outside CISV. I think it should that we can easily stay in tocuh with the people from our camps. And I also believe that that is why they made it in the first place. We must not forget that CISV is about understanding other cultures and make friendships outside the boarders of your own country, and I think that CISV Friends is a great oppurtinity to keep these friendships.
Always think about the WHY!
Just for the fun of it, tell me what you think about the following deduction:
Since CISV people went through the "school of CISV", we should consider their motives in lifes as GOOD - in case they are not directly working towards world peace anyway. If so, we should support them in any endeavour they may wish to take, even if in a corporate world, this may be considered "business". Therefore, extending CISV friends with a "networking tool" should be acceptable.
Cutting a long story short and being slighty simplistic: We'd always prefer CISVers over non-CISVers being succesful business people
(Lots of caveats in my argument, I know, but in the end, I'm for Sarah's proposal)
agree with nick provocative argument. now sure how could be implemented thought...
I agree with this proposal.
I think that IF CISV wants to really make a difference on the world, we have to start(continue) looking through different strategies to spread our impact. We cannot just be satisfied on being "a hell of a difference" on few hundreds - we're billions in this world.
So, I think this is a good strategy, and I agree with Nick's simplistic-but-great theory, that we'd rather have CISVers having great jobs than random people.
Well guys,
let's continue on the provocative side.
Are we a sect? Do we actually agree with any cisver on international politics and/or local daily matters?
Personally I don't think business is the real issue of CISV, and it is not in my life. I would much prefear a world made of non-profit-focused people. So, let's be provocative. Why should I support a cisver corporate manager when I think the corporate globalization is spoiling the world of its diversities and cultural tradition? What would it be the difference between a corporate manager and a cisv-experienced corporate manager? Do you think a cisv-experienced president of the USA would have surely choosen not to bomb Iraq and Afghanistan?
I don't think so. I also don't think all cisver are against those wars. And that's what CISV is about: accepting everybody, exchange, knowing each others and dialogue (and to me also not making war).
Making a difference is not only in CISV itself. CISV is not the panacea... it's a great personal/group experience. But we take it and use it in so many different and personal ways.
So, let it be. Anyone can use CISV friends the way he/she prefears. But I don't think an official business exchange would be a good idea.
Luca
Hey, I think that's a good idea-
Well, sure, it's not within the CISV goals- but, let's be honest, there are many nice side effects that are not directly within the CISV goals and that are taken so very often to promote CISV (e.g. "Language skills", "travelling", etc...).
All of us wouldn't be active in the organisation if we didn't get something out of it for ourselves, just for ourselves- and a lot of soft skills we learn in CISV are helpfull for business.
I think it's really romantic to think of CISV'ers being "back to the roots" people who don't care about their income and are not a part of the globalisation... well, in fact, we all are otherwise we couldn't afford to take part in CISV's programmes and activities-
Also, yes, what we do is giving and getting experience that should be reason for certain attitudes and behaviour in everyday life- so the job you have IS part of your everyday life, so why not let our network of people help in that part too and let it be a nice side- effect?
Babsi
From the experience of a yougnster who just got back from Helsinki and absolutely hated the whole CISV experience, it sounds awfully like a sect: total isolation, no phones allowed, cooking & cleaning without staff, doing funny dances with a weird paper robe and a bandanna on the eyes, dorm sleeping, no individualism... no activities except talking... I do think this has to be a front for something else...
Can someone answer my concerns???
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